There is definitely valid criticism to be made, but it can be a bit much at times.

2025-02-04 10:52:23

threelonmusketeers via Fediverse memes

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works

fedimemes

2025-02-04 11:01:33

Björn Tantau

bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de

Without capitalism you never would have made this meme!

2025-02-04 11:02:33

squirrel

squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de

Really? Advertising Sprite on Lemmy?? A Coca Cola Company product??? Keep your capitalism out of here! /s

2025-02-04 11:16:55

iii

iii@mander.xyz

Thanks Obama meme became Thanks Capitalism meme

2025-02-04 11:33:22

OldManBOMBIN

OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world

HEY, THAT GUY’S HOARDING ALL THE CARDS. LET’S KILL HIM!

2025-02-04 11:51:05

Psaldorn

Psaldorn@lemmy.world

You know what can REALLY be a bit much sometimes?

It’s Capita-

2025-02-04 12:31:42

verdigris

verdigris@lemmy.ml

Can we not? Like of all the shit to defend…

2025-02-04 12:38:07

doleo

doleo@lemmy.one

A bit much, like the artificially inflated prices of everything?

2025-02-04 12:59:24

atro_city

atro_city@fedia.io

Things will change once Elon shuts down reddit or buys it.

2025-02-04 13:04:09

Ziglin (it/they)

Ziglin@lemmy.world

Well if it weren’t for capitalism you wouldn’t have to complain about Lemmy complaining about it…

2025-02-04 13:10:13

Optional

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world

Hey now that its propaganda job is completed with the inauguration of absolute batshit rapist facism - sure, go nuts. Capitalism, uh, non-capitalism ? . or whatever . . y’know all the things you non-voters are on about. Go for it. Meme away.

2025-02-04 13:25:46

misk

misk@sopuli.xyz

/draws card

2025-02-04 13:26:44

lugal

lugal@sopuli.xyz

You have heard of commodification of capitalism criticism now get ready for commodification of criticism of capitalism criticism

2025-02-04 13:34:54

OBJECTION!

Objection@lemmy.ml

2025-02-04 14:28:05

Juice

Juice@midwest.social

I’ve personally never looked into it, like whenever someone brings up how bad capitalism is, i have a mental block so that all I can see or hear is Hulk Hogans intro to his fight with The Ultimate Warrior from Wrestlemania VI, but I’m sure its not that serious

2025-02-04 15:01:10

Zorque

Zorque@lemmy.world

What distro is this?

2025-02-04 15:47:21

iAvicenna

iAvicenna@lemmy.world

I am afraid we are way past that point, it is more like a discussion between should we kill all billionaires or just -force redistribute their wealth or not draw 25 cards

2025-02-04 15:52:16

merc

merc@sh.itjust.works

Especially when someone blames capitalism for something which has been a problem since the dawn of humanity, and if anything, has improved under capitalism.

2025-02-04 16:39:15

modifier

modifier@lemmy.ca

Care to share a representative xample?

2025-02-04 20:11:19

shalafi

shalafi@lemmy.world

Greed. Violence. Self-interest. In vs. Out groups. Shall I go on?

2025-02-05 03:30:26

9bananas

9bananas@lemmy.world

…those are all significantly worse under capitalism, how does that help the argument?

2025-02-05 06:00:16

Frank Casa

frank@frank.casa

There are different kinds of capitalism, just like there are different types of socialism.

Authoritarian socialism or communism is the worst, and crony capitalism is what we currently have, and is pretty bad too. But there are things like democratic socialism and stakeholder capitalism which attempt to balance competing interests.

For example, stakeholder capitalism is where all of the stakeholders benefit from their contributions, including labor. Workers get a share of the profits of the company, and are paid well as stakeholders in the company. The workers often own part or all of the company. There are also cooperatives, where the customers own the enterprise. Cooperatives work great for healthcare and necessities like groceries.

People tend to pick the worst examples of capitalism and socialism, but those are not the only flavors.

2025-02-05 06:31:53

9bananas

9bananas@lemmy.world

…okay? that wasn’t the question being asked. did you get confused at some point?

like, i agree with what you said, just…what does it have to do with the current state of affairs?

the entire comment chain talks about the past and how capitalism has (supposedly) improved conditions. (since that “improvement” is implied to have already happened by the past tense, we’re talking about the current system. without specifying anything about exactly “who” those conditions have improved for…conveniently)

so i fail to see the connection to (largely) theoretical improvements to capitalism…

2025-02-05 07:12:03

Frank Casa

frank@frank.casa

We actually used to have some form of stakeholder capitalism, at least practiced at a large number of companies. This is before the greedy corporate raiders ruined it, where they made investors the priority. It only existed for a short period, between the abuses of the past, and the abuses of now. But it was long enough where some people enjoyed an entire career.

At these companies, employees used to have jobs for life, pensions, and generous benefits. But then the corporate raiders took that all away. That is also about the time that employee's wages stopped growing and started to stagnate or worse.

Was it perfect? No. But it was better than communism, and better than laissez-faire capitalism, and better than crony capitalism, which we have now.

The good news is that some people are trying to bring stakeholder capitalism back. Many states now have something called a "public benefit corporation" which is legally required to consider all of the stakeholders, not just the investors. These laws would prevent corporate raiders and investors from gutting these companies at the expense of the workers and consumers.

Plus, cooperatives and employee-owned companies have been around for a long time. Both employees and consumers are treated much better at these enterprises than they are at their investor-owned counterparts.

It is a model that works, and must be protected.

2025-02-04 20:14:31

merc

merc@sh.itjust.works

“You don’t hate women and feminism. You hate capitalism.”

slrpnk.net/post/17820010

As if misogyny is a new thing that came along with capitalism. Women have been second-class citizens for most of recorded history. While they’re still not on par with men, if anything it has improved in the modern, capitalist world.

“It is always capitalism’s fault”

lemmy.world/post/23607277

Despite the nazis being fascists, somehow it’s not their fault, it’s actually capitalism that’s at fault.

Lemmy search isn’t very good, but I’ve replied to a bunch of Lemmy posts over the last while where the argument is basically that capitalism is the worst possible system. They seem to be unaware of just how brutal and awful life was under Manorialism / Feudalism. They seem to equate every modern ill with capitalism, even when it’s something that was 1000x worse under say fascism.

2025-02-04 20:21:33

Mojave

Mojave@lemmy.world

Hunger. What other form of economic system has kept people this fed? All communist countries have had famines mass killing their population.

The dust bowl ran a few thousand deaths in America compared to Mao’s famine killing millions, Soviet famines killing millions every couple decades, the '90s North Korean famine killed God knows how many people. Americans get fed dogshit slop, but they don’t starve.

2025-02-04 22:19:34

SoftestSapphic

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world

Snakes

2025-02-04 16:03:38

Lovable Sidekick

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world

The abundance of overconfident one-line retorts and trendy slang make me think people’s major source of knowledge here is memes.

2025-02-04 16:10:44

samus12345

samus12345@lemm.ee

2025-02-04 22:24:06

Clinicallydepressedpoochie

Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world

Give me the whole deck bitches, unos a kids game and were talking about causing political unrest.