Comment threads, on the default lemmy-ui.

2025-03-30 07:02:34

irelephant [he/him]🍭 via Fediverse memes

Irelephant@lemm.ee

Apologies to the mods.

fedimemes

2025-03-30 07:03:55

Blaze (he/him)

Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Nice rainbow

2025-03-30 07:20:24

Blastboom Strice

BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz

~~Thunder (indirectly) mentioned!!~~ wrong

~~Wait, is it Jerboa?~~ wrong

2025-03-30 07:20:30

drkt

drkt_@lemmy.dbzer0.com

it’s so fucking true

Anytime they pull you into an argument, suddenly 5 more show up to try and overwhelm you. There’s no way it isn’t a deliberate tactic.

2025-03-30 07:49:54

deaf_fish

deaf_fish@lemm.ee

If you make them look bad they delete the thread. It’s happened to me twice. I consider it a win, but it is sad that others won’t see how wacky they are.

2025-03-30 07:57:27

HexPat

HexPat@lemm.ee

Ok, what’s a tankie?

2025-03-30 08:01:11

irelephant [he/him]🍭

Irelephant@lemm.ee

Originally, it meant people who supported the soviet union’s use of tanks to crush uprisings.
Now its used to describe people who support Authoritatian Communist regimes, like the ussr, north korea or china.
On lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml there is a high amount of them.

2025-03-30 08:08:26

rockerface 🇺🇦

rockerface@lemm.ee

Somehow they even support modern russia which is as far from communism as it’s possible to be without being US

2025-03-30 08:10:13

irelephant [he/him]🍭

Irelephant@lemm.ee

Their reasoning is that its anti-us imperialism, despite russia being pretty imperialistic itself.

2025-03-30 08:13:10

rockerface 🇺🇦

rockerface@lemm.ee

Ah, the classic “only western countries can be imperialist”

2025-03-30 08:56:52

The Quuuuuill

Quill7513@slrpnk.net

the other vein of pro-russian tankies i’ve seen is that it’s impossible for a once communist country to backslide into fascis. how they square that and russia’s claim that they must destroy Ukraine, a country that was once not just communist, but anarcho-communist, in order to stop their backslide into fascism, i have no idea. perhaps if a person is actually familiar with history and not just a single pro-hegemonic propaganda, they wouldn’t be tankies.

i’ve been developing a theory, more of a hypothesis, really, that tankies, hoteps, white feminists, etc have figured out a part of the puzzle of oppression, and in their anger at waking up to that aspect of their reality, reject all other discourse surrounding the system of oppression that doesn’t mesh with their experienced oppression. this, in many ways, is the root of leftist infighting. everyone sees everyone else’s fight for liberation as a distraction from their own fight for liberation. the trick is, none of them are. they are simply different expressions of how the ruling class controls us.

when a tankie says shit like “the trans issue is a distraction” the are sparking leftist infighting, charitably unknowingly. our trans brothers, sisters, and thembers are our allies in this, and are generally speaking (not universally of course, i don’t want to give the impression anyone is a homogenous group) left as hell. we need them to help us in our fight because they are experienced, battle hardened, and see things the rest of us don’t see because they are tuned in.

the thing is that… yes. the culture wars are distractions. but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight in them. that’s like saying the best response to being bullied in school is to take your beating and tell no one because you’re focused on a bigger issue. that’s a great way to get your legs broke. the answer is to push back against the culture wars and say why we push back, and say that our enemy combatants are distracted from the real war. that they are acting as class traitors from a deep system of manipulation.

tankies don’t realize it, or maybe they do, but they’re conservatives. they seek to maintain a hegemony that oppresses us, the working classes, that has been shown not to work. authoritarian communism is still authoritarianism, and also expresses somewhere between most and all of the features of ur-fascism. it will never save us from our oppression. they also tell on themselves when they say “read theory” and all the books they reference were published before WWII. the world has moved on. we have learned more about our oppressors. they’re leaving out a century of theory when they say to read theory. they are practitioners of the religion of Marxist-Leninism

2025-03-30 10:49:47

Frank Casa

frank@frank.casa

A lot of people don't realize they are being manipulated to fight each other instead of dealing with the people who are actually causing the problems, the ones pulling the strings and syphoning off all the wealth for themselves and their friends.

2025-03-30 13:00:26

socsa

socsa@piefed.social

It's way simpler than this. They simply cannot admit that Lenin, Stalin and Mao just got communism wrong. They refuse to move on from those authoritarian traditions. That's really it.

Marxism, in general is a very modernist political theory. For most of the 20th century, we extended most modernist ideals beyond that rigid structuralism. Leftism is no exception, but MLMs in general refuse to move past that way of thinking. As you say, it is very similar to the way that modern conservatives seem to hold that early 1900s thinking up as some philosophical ideal.

2025-03-30 14:55:39

OBJECTION!

Objection@lemmy.ml

the other vein of pro-russian tankies i’ve seen is that it’s impossible for a once communist country to backslide into fascis.

You haven’t seen that because literally no one says or believes this. It’s entirely your own invention, a blatant strawman.

As I always say, “If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.”

Didn’t read anything after that because you started with such a blatant lie.

2025-03-30 15:21:12

mathemachristian [he/him]

mathemachristian@hexbear.net

That’s such an oversimplifcation that it can just be dismissed as wrong. Here is someone who actually asked and didn’t just assume

hexbear.net/post/4477584

2025-03-30 09:44:49

bdonvr

bdonvr@thelemmy.club

I really haven’t seen that? A while ago I looked into HexBear’s opinion on it and it wasn’t good.

Check out this thread, there really isn’t any Putin worship in these spaces.

hexbear.net/post/148426?scrollToComments=false

In this one some of the top comments are hoping Putin gets shot in the face. hexbear.net/post/3270551

2025-03-30 14:18:08

Schmoo

Schmoo@slrpnk.net

What people tend not to realize is they don’t support Russia because they think it’s still communist, but because of a combination of campism, accelerationism, and revolutionary defeatism. If you want to argue with someone in good faith you should try to understand their position first, otherwise they will just see you as a reactionary and dismiss what you say. I still occasionally get my comments removed from .ml but I’ve been able to get through to people somewhat by leading with an actual understanding of where they’re coming from.

2025-03-31 04:33:54

brain_in_a_box [he/him]

brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net

I think the best evidence that “tankie” is a meaningless snarl word is the way the people who use it just make up what ever positions they like to ascribe to the mythical “tankie”. Like, none of the people you call “tankies” support modern Russia, but you’re going to insist that tankies support modern Russia anyway, because it’s not meant to an actual descriptive word, just a way to punch left.

2025-03-30 08:08:39

HexPat

HexPat@lemm.ee

Thanks for taking the time to explain. Much appreciated.

2025-03-30 12:25:57

Vanilla_PuddinFudge

Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub

The authoritarian part waxes and wanes, there’s a few anarchists in their ranks who have no real solution after “tear it all apart”.

What then, boys?

2025-03-31 02:27:10

Belly_Beanis [he/him]

Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net

Originally, it meant people who supported the soviet union’s use of tanks to crush uprisings.

And with the recent JFK declassified documents:

Image/photo

…it turns out the soviets were right to crush the Hungarian color revolution lmao

2025-03-30 08:11:52

RangerJosey

RangerJosey@lemmy.ml

Half a century ago it meant people who supported the soviet union using tanks to put down a cia backed coup in Hungary.

Modern times in the west it means anyone left of AOC.

2025-03-30 22:24:56

goferking (he/him)

goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org

Anyone to the left of morning Joe?

2025-03-31 04:31:02

brain_in_a_box [he/him]

brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net

It’s an updated version of “commie”, means the same thing, but for people who don’t want to sound like cold war boomers.

2025-03-30 09:25:13

ieatpwns

ieatpwns@lemmy.world

What should I say to get the stripes?

2025-03-30 11:32:22

ZombiFrancis

ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works

2025-03-30 12:31:52

TropicalDingdong

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world

It’s a coward who needs an echo chamber to find support for their perspectives.

2025-03-30 14:11:55

xorollo

xorollo@leminal.space

It’s really cool zooming in and out of the rainbow on your phone. You can’t tell the zoom is also happening. In the vertical direction, only horizontal, so it’s an odd effect I haven’t seen before.

2025-03-30 14:21:49

Nastybutler

Nastybutler@lemmy.world

Maybe they were all commenting on your spelling of “criticising”

2025-03-30 17:17:39

ArcaneSlime

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Sorry but this is incorrect. They get deleted before they could ever get that many comments!

Haha .ml sucks.

2025-03-30 17:25:39

Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼

Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com

It will actually look more like this:

Removed by moderator

2025-03-30 17:48:02

Rhoeri

Rhoeri@lemmy.world

Are you joking? Say anything critical of their beloved authoritarianism, and you get nuked. There’s little chance for anyone to respond.

And note how it’s always the admins that do all the work because the mods are flaccid and powerless to moderate their own communities. It kind of makes you wonder if this is by design so as to emulate the colossal shitshow that their entire ideology is based off of.

2025-03-31 12:51:26

Ilixtze

Ilixtze@lemm.ee

Is it pride month already?

2025-03-31 13:24:11

Cowbee [he/they]

Cowbee@lemmy.ml

Criticizing Marxists on a community that is federated with the largest Marxist-aligned instances will indeed result in a struggle session.

2025-03-31 13:59:43

RememberTheApollo_

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world

That would be the preferable result rather than just getting banned or the comment/post deleted.

2025-03-31 15:56:53

Tiger_Man_〔he/him〕

Tiger_Man_@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Trinitron

2025-03-31 16:34:27

Sauerkraut

Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de

Are anti-genocide “tankies” really the biggest threat to democracy right now?

Fascists and Nazis are in the white house destroying the US. They are also on the verge of taking over and destroying Europe.

Everyone to the left of fascism needs to unite together to stop the neo-Nazis before it is too late. If the Nazis are allowed to start ww3 then nukes will end us all.

2025-03-31 20:59:14

emberpunk

emberpunk@lemmy.ml

Hey 👋🌈

2025-04-01 04:30:04

flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)

flamingos@feddit.uk

“POV: This thread” with an image of a deeply nested Lemmy thread

Locking as people have reached the point where they’re just insulting each other/telling each other to kill themselves.